my shimoda and i talk about places to eat around LA fairly often. well, if you ever in the south bay around lunch time, then please do me and luke walton a favor and check out sloopy's. great sandwiches, great fries. luke walton has stated that it is the best place in LA for milkshakes. they have a firepit and old wagon wheels for tables. they also have a picture of chick hern in their kitchen. oh yeah, and they don't have a roof, so it's like being inside and outside at the same time.